tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post1068584054717245358..comments2023-06-28T22:58:28.247+10:00Comments on Sixth In Line: My chopped-off penisElisabethhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-6616274046777993892013-04-28T23:27:25.565+10:002013-04-28T23:27:25.565+10:00I've had one for 80 years. There have been tim...I've had one for 80 years. There have been times in the past when I've wondered what it would be like to not have one. These days, although it's still there (or was, last time I looked) I might as well not have one.Jim Froggatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09111761020526308969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-13013165535440687342013-04-27T16:48:56.042+10:002013-04-27T16:48:56.042+10:00It's good to see you here again, Paul Walter. ...It's good to see you here again, Paul Walter. I suppose it's fair to imagine that someone on the other side of the so-called 'dinga-divide', at least on the other side from me, might feel more anxious about my thoughts. <br /><br />Psychoanalytic theory tries to deal with these anxieties in ways that might surprise some, but like everything else it's an imperfect tool, method and way of thinking. <br /><br />Thanks, PaulElisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-81494676690409262682013-04-27T16:45:00.837+10:002013-04-27T16:45:00.837+10:00Breathe away David-Glen. I didn't intend to t...Breathe away David-Glen. I didn't intend to take your breath away, only to offer a little food for thought, but then again I who have no penis and can only imagine what it's like with one, would presumably feel less distraught at the fantasy of its being chopped off than you. For you it must seem more ghastly. The threat, the fantasy that is. Such a reality even for me is almost unthinkable.<br /><br />Thanks, David-Glen.Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-71387103151085499532013-04-27T16:41:50.281+10:002013-04-27T16:41:50.281+10:00I often reflect back on the good old seventies, Da...I often reflect back on the good old seventies, Davide. Psychoanalysis might have been or seemed more alive then, or more acceptable, or was it the beginning of its death rattles? I don't know. I know that for some of us certain psychoanalytic ideas are still alive and well, but hopefully they keep on developing and changing.<br /><br />Thanks, Davide. Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-4932466218914951132013-04-27T16:39:23.780+10:002013-04-27T16:39:23.780+10:00Maybe the discomfort with crip theory, Rob-bear, h...Maybe the discomfort with crip theory, Rob-bear, has to do with the dangers of reducing things to abstract ideas. But as long as we recognise these things as ideas only and not facts, as long as we can go on thinking beyond them, and they don't become absolutes, I reckon they're worth reflecting on. We needn't accept them as gospel truths. <br /><br />Thanks, Rob-bear. Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-48224968796893037402013-04-27T16:36:24.108+10:002013-04-27T16:36:24.108+10:00Maybe our increasing recognition of imperfection i...Maybe our increasing recognition of imperfection is a good thing, Marja. Too much certainty leads to wars and the like. Hardly a good thing. <br /><br />It seems to me a little doubt goes a long way, but too much doubt can be crippling. We need to try to get everything in balance, including crip theory. But of course, perfect balance is also impossible,<br />Thanks, Marja. Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-48089403399815130712013-04-27T14:58:23.964+10:002013-04-27T14:58:23.964+10:00It's probably helpful for all of us, Anthony, ...It's probably helpful for all of us, Anthony, at least from from time to time to reflect on what it might be like to be the 'other', not just on the basis of gender but on the basis of many other variables, as you can imagine.<br /><br />Thanks, Anthony. Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-75392215243665670242013-04-27T14:56:07.712+10:002013-04-27T14:56:07.712+10:00I reckon we need this crip theory big time, Christ...I reckon we need this crip theory big time, Christine and your example just goes to show the value that can lie in our mistakes. Out of mistakes we learn . If we never suffer them we tend to stultify. <br /><br />Thanks, Christine. Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-91530923601478483742013-04-27T14:54:17.200+10:002013-04-27T14:54:17.200+10:00I had to do a Google search for Norman Vincent Pea...I had to do a Google search for Norman Vincent Peale, Kirk. He was the founder of positive thinking among other things. Now I can see why he might turn in his grave and as you say, Kirk, that's not a bad thing.<br />Thanks. Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-80152047547307787082013-04-27T14:51:20.553+10:002013-04-27T14:51:20.553+10:00That's an interesting story, Philip. It's...That's an interesting story, Philip. It's true that there are men who can be as insecure about their penises as there are women who are insecure about their female genitalia. Perhaps because we associate our genitalia with desire and therefore to some extent with power. It's easy to feel either desirable or undesirable depending on your circumstances, and so no wonder we judge ourselves on the basis of some of these superficial variables.<br /><br />Thanks, PhilipElisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-90793371311462676522013-04-27T14:47:48.319+10:002013-04-27T14:47:48.319+10:00I don't think Freud meant his penis envy quite...I don't think Freud meant his penis envy quite as literally as we might see it today, Ellen. And as much as I disagree with much of what he wrote then, I disagree now. We've developed a long way since his initial ideas, but I think it might be unfair to call him an idiot. If anything it seems to me he was one smart guy but he was a creature of his time. His ideas are not easily accessible and they have been falsely characterised in the popular consciousness. There's more to these ideas than meets the eye, and certainly it needs thought and questioning but not total dismissal. Remember crip theory. Freud's part of that, too, though he might not have thought it at the time. <br /><br />Thanks, Ellen. Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-82966121726330325502013-04-27T14:42:45.268+10:002013-04-27T14:42:45.268+10:00I agree Jim, about the disabilities of all writers...I agree Jim, about the disabilities of all writers, and I reckon that to some extent these disabilities can fuel the desire to write, and the striving for perfection, or as near as we might get to it, through our work.<br /><br />As for penises, what comes to mind is a truck i noticed this morning on my way to a wedding. The truck was red with a naked cartoon figure of a buxom female painted in gold or silver on the driver/passenger door. The truck which was clearly a concrete pouring truck went by the name of 'Positive pumping'. <br /><br />The analogy is clear. I'm not sure whether to shrug it off as a joke or whether to feel indignant at this further mocking of the sexual act, the couple and particularly the woman, the one who holds the pump on the side of the truck. Presumably the metaphor extends ion other directions. Who'd want to be pumped full of concrete. Who'd dream up such a sales gimmick? Little boys and their toys. The mind boggles.<br /><br />Thanks, Jim.<br /> <br /><br />Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-57215572016646875902013-04-27T14:33:13.609+10:002013-04-27T14:33:13.609+10:00Crip theory is pretty much the way I live too, Riv...Crip theory is pretty much the way I live too, River. Not everyone has the same curiosity about the anatomy of the opposite sex. This might have to do with all sorts of factors, and I'd be speculating too far to list them. <br /><br />Thanks, River. Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-33124090738469407972013-04-27T14:29:45.142+10:002013-04-27T14:29:45.142+10:00Penis envy preceded womb envy as far as I know, Yv...Penis envy preceded womb envy as far as I know, Yvonne, and in that order. I reckon it was a concept of its time, when the patriarchy held even greater sway that it does today. At a symbolic level it makes some sense but as you imply it has had to move along. <br /><br />Freud had his blind spots but he also began a pursuit that has proved worthwhile as long as it keeps developing and moving beyond those initial concepts which made sense in their time, though they do not so much apply today. <br /><br />Thanks, Yvonne. Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-8059391656088279492013-04-27T14:25:47.014+10:002013-04-27T14:25:47.014+10:00Crip theory has a lot going for it, I reckon, Lol...Crip theory has a lot going for it, I reckon, Lol. I'm glad it makes sense to you. <br />Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-34624264835552341662013-04-25T21:29:24.271+10:002013-04-25T21:29:24.271+10:00Hi Elisabeth, had wanted to get back here for anot...Hi Elisabeth, had wanted to get back here for another look but Google kept getting in the way.<br />As David said, it's a worrisome title for folk this side of the dinga-divide.<br />But you got to the essence of what this pyscho analytical theory is actually about, re subjective anxieties, personality formation/individuation and other misunderstood and the sometimes complex and sensitive existential thinking that speculates on formation and emergence.<br />It's actually a good companion for the last post up at npfs.paul walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08099209671519680277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-2820584441469524902013-04-24T08:52:47.769+10:002013-04-24T08:52:47.769+10:00Oh my.... that title caught me off guard, immediat...Oh my.... that title caught me off guard, immediately. Let me breathe for a minute. David-Glen Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00506025325923788597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-72694696370375039702013-04-23T04:31:17.192+10:002013-04-23T04:31:17.192+10:00Hello Elisabeth, this matter has been an intense t...Hello Elisabeth, this matter has been an intense topic of discussion in the "psychoanalitic" period of time of the middle 70's.<br /><br />I have anjoyed your post.<br /><br />All my bestTommaso Gervasuttihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17137499390434949734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-52244708684181180662013-04-22T22:41:19.232+10:002013-04-22T22:41:19.232+10:00I had never hard of Crip Theory. I followed your l...I had never hard of Crip Theory. I followed your link, and read. <br /><br />As someone who has lived with (invisible) disability for a long time, I found the theory "interesting." And yet something about it makes me uncomfortable. I'm not sure what, but there is something.<br /><br />Thanks for sharing your thoughts, too.<br /><br />Blessings and Bear hugs!<br /><a href="http://bears-noting.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Bears Noting</a>Rob-bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00171692478879522588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-75840142197900523612013-04-22T18:31:24.536+10:002013-04-22T18:31:24.536+10:00Interesting I never had thoughts about a penis exc...Interesting I never had thoughts about a penis except that I am happy to not have one. <br />Crip theory sounds interesting. I think when we learn we are always uncertain and incomplete, even though we can still strive for perfection. We always must take risks and try out new things. I think than the learning curve will be the steepest. Imperfection is the trend Marjahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17458942200244031009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-42752934885592874672013-04-21T12:08:44.766+10:002013-04-21T12:08:44.766+10:00Okay, you will have me admitting when I wondered w...Okay, you will have me admitting when I wondered what it would be like to have boobs, and curves. To have such power, thinking of the wondrous powers you that have them, have over me☺ <br />I love your writing, the thought provoking wonder we think about, you put into words. <br />Anthony Ducehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17476865809734682418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-46389204464292729502013-04-21T06:50:31.130+10:002013-04-21T06:50:31.130+10:00HA! I like this. I have been waiting for this the...HA! I like this. I have been waiting for this theory all my life. Crip theory is about what happens at the edges of things with the resulting accidents and magnificent discoveries... <br />My husband tells the story of a visit to his workplace by someone from the tax office who asked how many projects had failed. You see, the tax man explained, it showed the workplace or company people were prepared to experiment, to risk failure rather than stay safe and keep within the lines. Christinehttp://www.freudinoceania.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-73027406995916920812013-04-21T06:35:39.300+10:002013-04-21T06:35:39.300+10:00"Crip theory argues in favour of uncertainly ..."Crip theory argues in favour of uncertainly and incompleteness. It argues for the messy realities of our lives, for the fact that we can only know things in incomplete ways..." <br /><br />Norman Vincent Peale must be turning in his grave (which is fine with me.)<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> Kirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02155991693956178030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-62699359540365128502013-04-21T05:34:40.623+10:002013-04-21T05:34:40.623+10:00From the title of this piece one could be forgiven...From the title of this piece one could be forgiven to think it was a 'cock and bull' story, but it was honest and interesting. <br />And it's not just some female ladies of the opposite gender who have a penis envy! Oh no sirree. There was an actor called John Bindon, a bit of a 'hard man' in more ways than one. He was friends with quite a few London gangsters and John's famous party piece was to hang a few half-pint beer mugs on his extraordinary penis. He was quite a ladies man too. Dunno why.PhilipHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06811831703263176415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-2502260010586678042013-04-20T23:48:51.652+10:002013-04-20T23:48:51.652+10:00Freud was an idiot, a misogynist who could not ima...Freud was an idiot, a misogynist who could not imagine that what women wanted was the same freedoms and opportunities as men. the only thing he could come up with was penis envy. I don't know a single woman who ever wished she had a penis. ellen abbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00535475792150335186noreply@blogger.com