tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post4365005439268689227..comments2023-06-28T22:58:28.247+10:00Comments on Sixth In Line: Not for me cold tea. I much prefer it hot.Elisabethhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-68074686922472607632012-05-25T22:33:57.822+10:002012-05-25T22:33:57.822+10:00My two thoughts on your post are completely unrela...My two thoughts on your post are completely unrelated.<br /><br />1. Here in the states of the Old Confederacy, iced sweet tea is practically the Southern National Drink. My wife and I prefer hot tea (green, decaffeinated) with a teaspoonful of honey; it wards off bronchitis in the wintertime. It really does.<br /><br />2. Just this morning I ran across the following quotation in my documents. How serendipitous! It seems to fit perfectly with your report of the conference:<br /><br />"For last year's words belong to last year's language. And next year's words await another voice. And to make an end is to make a beginning." --T.S. Eliot in "Little Gidding"<br /><br />Bob Brague (Canton, Georgia, USA)rhymeswithplaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10870439618129001633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-83192055117015201982012-05-25T17:57:29.687+10:002012-05-25T17:57:29.687+10:00Thanks for the link to your Eve Langley poem, Litt...Thanks for the link to your Eve Langley poem, Little Hat. It's beautiful and tragic - like her life - all rolled into one.Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-10768167920977705602012-05-25T17:53:02.774+10:002012-05-25T17:53:02.774+10:00I'm not sure that blogging requires much clari...I'm not sure that blogging requires much clarity of mind, Karen. I'm not sure how clear mine is from blog post to blog post. In fact I think blogs are ideal for folks who do not want to settle too long on an issue. Maybe that's unfair of me to suggest. There are many times when I wish I had much greater clarity of mind. Thanks again, Karen.Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-82234424194211570942012-05-25T17:50:13.077+10:002012-05-25T17:50:13.077+10:00I worked with folks on long term antipsychotic med...I worked with folks on long term antipsychotic medication in the seventies and early eighties, Syd, and what that medication did to them was horrendous. Tongue rolling and ataxia, among other things. The poor souls could not stand still for a minute. <br /><br />You have to wonder what was worse their mental ill health or the consequences of their treatment. It's better these days, I reckon, but still not without its problems, especially for those assigned to a lifetime on powerful antipsychotics.<br /><br />Thanks, Syd.Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-82687512523523427182012-05-23T23:17:31.661+10:002012-05-23T23:17:31.661+10:00I've written a bit more about Eve Langley incl...I've written a bit more about Eve Langley including a lovely poem by her. http://mymissinglife.blogspot.com.au/2012/05/madness-eve-langley.html<br /><br />Thanks for the other reference. I've dipped in and will return to complete my read asap.Steve Capelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14838386764407644146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-15737439434409356432012-05-23T23:06:40.180+10:002012-05-23T23:06:40.180+10:00Elisabeth, for me to maintain a blog would take de...Elisabeth, for me to maintain a blog would take dedication and clarity of thought - on a consistent basis.<br />I have a nagging thought that I may be afflicted with ADD.<br />I do know my mother was already drinking heavily before I was born but that doesn't mean I shouldn't try.<br />Karen CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-87651534250879577732012-05-23T04:59:02.213+10:002012-05-23T04:59:02.213+10:00So many of the mentally ill are on medications tha...So many of the mentally ill are on medications that put them in a stupor. Hopefully, that has been changed in recent years. I used to volunteer at a half-way house for mentally ill adults many years ago and what thorazine, stellazine and lithium did wasn't pretty. I don't know how some of those people held any kind of job.Sydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05642843245634635843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-66186178599119551532012-05-22T21:25:40.027+10:002012-05-22T21:25:40.027+10:00I enjoy the occasional bout of rebellion against t...I enjoy the occasional bout of rebellion against the status quo, India and relish the thought that maybe that's what my unconscious was aiming at.<br /><br />Thanks for the insight. I'm glad you find the idea of my domestic scene charming. It has its moments, but essentially it's okay, or at least good enough.Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-60337273669322003742012-05-22T21:23:05.228+10:002012-05-22T21:23:05.228+10:00There is always so much between the lines, Rosaria...There is always so much between the lines, Rosaria, as you say. It's a large part of the stuff that keeps us going on.<br /><br />Thanks for the encouragement, Rosaria.Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-47373123335261040092012-05-22T21:21:18.055+10:002012-05-22T21:21:18.055+10:00You have it in one, Elizabeth. The Freud conferen...You have it in one, Elizabeth. The Freud conference is not Freudian, but in many ways analytic eclectic. Thank goodness. <br /><br />I think you'd enjoy it here in Australia with our version of Earl Grey tea from England and our wonderful coffee.<br /><br />Thanks, Elizabeth.Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-44131478736651313082012-05-22T21:18:31.806+10:002012-05-22T21:18:31.806+10:00Yuk, indeed, Windsmoke. Tea and coffee mixed toge...Yuk, indeed, Windsmoke. Tea and coffee mixed together sound revolting. At least I didn't get as far as trying them.<br /><br />Thanks, Windsmoke.Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-15056532151236566332012-05-22T21:17:02.892+10:002012-05-22T21:17:02.892+10:00I agree, Christine, the business of placing others...I agree, Christine, the business of placing others in lowly, supposedly non-stressful positions, can be more about the comfort of others than about the needs of the people so placed.<br /><br />I'm glad you enjoyed the conference, too. As far as I'm concerned it was a real winner. What a day. It's still with me. <br /><br />At least we managed a brief hello in the so-called real world, in time we'll make it longer. <br /><br />Thanks, Christine.Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-7756770580761903022012-05-22T21:13:28.174+10:002012-05-22T21:13:28.174+10:00Hot food and cold drink, Kirk. I can understand t...Hot food and cold drink, Kirk. I can understand the yin and yang of that but what about the reverse: cold food such as raw food and ice cream, versus hot toddies and soup. I suppose the truth is we need both. What we like or prefer is another matter. Idiosyncratic.Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-46522438458795619602012-05-22T21:10:25.698+10:002012-05-22T21:10:25.698+10:00Elyn Saks made that point, Kirk, namely that a job...Elyn Saks made that point, Kirk, namely that a job in a supermarket could be stressful for anyone, and especially if it's something a person doesn't enjoy or is not particularly good at. As well, retail involves a fair degree of sociability. <br /><br />Her point was that people with so-called mental illness are best encouraged to do what the are good at and what they enjoy rather than take up basic occupations in order to keep them less stressed. It's a bit like the old idea of basket weaving in hospital for people after a stroke for some of whom such activities can totally meaningless and/or demeaning.<br /><br />Thanks, Kirk.Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-46944902276896793262012-05-22T21:05:07.776+10:002012-05-22T21:05:07.776+10:00My head's out of la-la land, Who, but maybe no...My head's out of la-la land, Who, but maybe not yet fully balanced. My daughter's antics were perfectly reasonable the other morning. She was called out for work early and didn't want to wake us to let us know. The point for me here is that I could not remember whether she'd told me about it in advance.<br /><br />Sometimes days and events slide into one another, and it's hard to keep abreast of it all. <br /><br />Thanks for your support and kind words, Dusty Who.Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-7267756524090460712012-05-22T20:59:34.979+10:002012-05-22T20:59:34.979+10:00If I could write fiction, serious fiction, as do a...If I could write fiction, serious fiction, as do a few of my writing friends who lose themselves in their imaginations, I would love to go in between the lines, but I seem to be too much earth bound.<br /><br />Time's a factor, as you would know. You need time to fictionalise, more time than to write non-fiction, or at least that's my take on it. <br /><br />Thanks, Kath.Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-39003355252980524852012-05-22T20:57:04.090+10:002012-05-22T20:57:04.090+10:00I'd like to think my head is more settled toda...I'd like to think my head is more settled today, Karen, at least more settled than it was on Sunday when I wrote this post but I can't say it is. The weekend events have passed but other events have caught up with them and taken over. Life's like that I reckon. Never a dull moment. <br /><br />I'm not visiting my blog friends as much as I'd like. I seem to be trying hard to get through all the writing demands I've set myself beyond my work and my family life and all in all it's hard to give blogging the dedication I'd like, but I still dip in and out of other people's blogs when I can. <br /><br />I'm sorry to hear about your sick friend. Situations like the one you describe highlight the value of skype though. It's such a blessing. In fact I find most technology a blessing. Its a different way of connecting and to my way of thinking it's not as bad as many of the naysayers suggest.<br /><br />Thanks for your wonderful comment, Karen. It's always good to hear from you especially when you don't have a blog I can visit or not as far as I know.Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-23558796784120887832012-05-22T20:46:45.415+10:002012-05-22T20:46:45.415+10:00I think I picked up the expression out of whack fr...I think I picked up the expression out of whack from my husband, Jim. His family is several generations Australian and he spent most of his childhood living in the bush on a farm. His father started out as a wool classer and farmer. Therefore my husband has plenty of expressions which he uses so often that in time they have become part of my vocabulary. Expressions such as a dingo's breakfast consists of 'a drink of water and a good look around', or if something is obvious 'it sticks out like dog's balls'. He also uses a great deal of rhyming slang. Many folks in australia, at least of our generation do. Like my china derives from from china plate which rhymes with mate, meaning my friend.<br /><br />I could go on. As for people's tea and coffee drinking habits to me talking about them is rather like talking about the weather. We all have our idiosyncrasies, our stories including those who avoid caffeine altogether. <br /><br />As for conferences, I have a mixed relationship with them. So far I mostly enjoy them, but there's the odd one that's been more difficult and mostly the difficulties have to do with the audience and times in between talks when socialising is a necessity and it can be painful. Not for you,though. <br /><br />As you say, you avoid conferences altogether. But I grew up in a large group: my family, as you well know, and in that sense I'm drawn to them, groups that is.<br /><br />Thanks, Jim.Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-44438086095622767902012-05-22T20:23:14.906+10:002012-05-22T20:23:14.906+10:00I did not know about Eve Langley, Little Hat, unti...I did not know about Eve Langley, Little Hat, until now from this comment of yours and I'm grateful to read about her. What a sad sad life. As much as we might feel for her children I also feel deeply for her. She suffered the same fate as Janet Frame, though it may be that her diagnosis of schizophrenia was accurate. I'm always pretty wary about these things. <br /><br />Have you ever read a short story called the Yellow Wallpaper. It's a classic that deals with women, writing and madness. You can read it online. It was written by a woman named Charlotte Perkins Gilman. See: http://www.pagebypagebooks.com/Charlotte_Perkins_Gilman/The_Yellow_Wallpaper/The_Yellow_Wallpaper_p1.html<br />if you're interested.<br /><br />Thanks, Little Hat.Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-80625701096384584482012-05-22T08:25:18.653+10:002012-05-22T08:25:18.653+10:00I see your choosing coffee instead of tea as an ac...I see your choosing coffee instead of tea as an act of subconcious rebellion against the status quo. Fascinating. How I envy in the best possible way your daughter and husband inside your kitchen AND your attending a conference on Freud. It all sounds so charming.phyllis nobleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07904749820148256361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-89824673336057695382012-05-21T12:31:35.602+10:002012-05-21T12:31:35.602+10:00Reading between the lines is what readers, writers...Reading between the lines is what readers, writers and analysts do! Yes, we must go on, with or without help, with or without all our faculties. By going on we choose life and choose to be self-directed.Rosaria Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133147851332084180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-10276341544060665122012-05-21T09:45:48.974+10:002012-05-21T09:45:48.974+10:00I'm sitting here, soaking up your Beckettian p...I'm sitting here, soaking up your Beckettian prose, wishing I were in Melbourne, drinking Earl Grey and attending Freud (not Freudian) conferences and getting in whack.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03313726816776097840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-69639541484026671892012-05-21T07:02:32.516+10:002012-05-21T07:02:32.516+10:00That's nothing because one morning i actually ...That's nothing because one morning i actually grabbed a cup, put a teaspoon of coffee and a tea bag in the same cup but i didn't realise it until i started drinking it YUK! :-).Windsmoke.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12225394580987872677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-77938033558879458702012-05-21T06:49:48.253+10:002012-05-21T06:49:48.253+10:00It was a terrific conference - I was there, too. T...It was a terrific conference - I was there, too. The message, for people with this illess, to not lower onesexpectations and also to not accept such advice from well-meaning people was certainly well said. It is as if the illness must define a person and not, as Elyn Saks shows, the other way around. Sometimes one must fight to be recognised for who one is, rather than placed for the comfort of others.Christinehttp://www.freudinoceania.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28133718.post-48652088003222793722012-05-21T06:49:46.553+10:002012-05-21T06:49:46.553+10:00It was a terrific conference - I was there, too. T...It was a terrific conference - I was there, too. The message, for people with this illess, to not lower onesexpectations and also to not accept such advice from well-meaning people was certainly well said. It is as if the illness must define a person and not, as Elyn Saks shows, the other way around. Sometimes one must fight to be recognised for who one is, rather than placed for the comfort of others.Christinehttp://www.freudinoceania.comnoreply@blogger.com